My 02 Honda Nsx (updated Page 9)

[gcon45]

Its a nice piece of kit! But as you probably know, will do nothing more that create a bit of induction roar. It would need to be coupled with new exhaust or better still exhaust and headers. I would also remove the OEM induction piping in the wing as its quite restrictive and go with the large scoop. Myself and Andrew have upgraded our exhausts and I noticed a difference right away. I'll hopefully be doing a header install over the winter months so would be pushing around 311hp in a 1200kg NSX

I'm more than happy with the power I've got in the 3.2 to be honest Sudesh.

I much prefer added induction noise as opposed to added exhaust noise.

A good addition to the kit would be Downforce's air intake scoop:

Downforce :: NSX :: Downforce Products :: NSX Air Intake Scoop

Maybe one to think about down the line...

 

[Sudesh]

The 3.2 cars have the same HP as a standard 3.0 JDM car! Performance is very good as standard but you may seek more in a few years lol. I was in the same line of though as you about 4 years ago but got the itch for more, so that's why I first went the NSX-R route of making the car lighter, but that direction is starting to get thin as I'm running out of things to do away with or swap for lighter units. I'll probably go down the carbon route at some stage.

The DF scoop would be much better than the standard setup.

I'm more than happy with the power I've got in the 3.2 to be honest Sudesh.

I much prefer added induction noise as opposed to added exhaust noise.

A good addition to the kit would be Downforce's air intake scoop:

Downforce :: NSX :: Downforce Products :: NSX Air Intake Scoop

Maybe one to think about down the line...

 

[gcon45]

The 3.2 cars have the same HP as a standard 3.0 JDM car! Performance is very good as standard but you may seek more in a few years lol. I was in the same line of though as you about 4 years ago but got the itch for more, so that's why I first went the NSX-R route of making the car lighter, but that direction is starting to get thin as I'm running out of things to do away with or swap for lighter units. I'll probably go down the carbon route at some stage.

The DF scoop would be much better than the standard setup.

Torque?

 

[Sudesh]

The 996 is my bros, its the facelift 3.6 but doesnt compare to the NSX in my opinion.

Might have seen the silver one but cant really say; to be honest, Porsche does nothing for me, plenty off them around these days and I wouldnt really give them a second glance unless it was something special like a GT3/GT2 etc. If anything I would prefer the older 993 4s or Turbo or better still, 964 Turbo.

I dont know if i get the NSX buzz..

i mean i know they are meant to be a great handling car, but the looks and the price just wouldnt be for me...

and are they fast? sudesh you have a 996 knocking about down at the house too, or is that your bro? FDZ 10? how does it compare? or is it comparable?

My uncle had a silver one, doctor in ballykelly clinic, you mite have seen it about sudesh? it was bought as a present by the prince of brunei or something to someone in the UK and then my uncle came across it.

 

[IL]

The 996 is my bros, its the facelift 3.6 but doesnt compare to the NSX in my opinion.

Might have seen the silver one but cant really say; to be honest, Porsche does nothing for me, plenty off them around these days and I wouldnt really give them a second glance unless it was something special like a GT3/GT2 etc. If anything I would prefer the older 993 4s or Turbo or better still, 964 Turbo.

soft spot for a GT3 myself, hopefully be able to make one fit into the fleet in a few years even it is a 996 mk2 version

if i see you about in the NSX i may stop with you and have a look about it

 

[Sudesh]

Torque?

Torque is also increased on JDM 3.0 NSX, its 294Nm(30.0 kgm)
3.2 is 298NM so not allot in it. Plus earlier cars are lighter that facelift!

 

[gcon45]

Love to see the power curves though as I've learned from my Evo days not to get too much of a hard on about peak figures!

 

[Sudesh]

Kaz done the dyno and testing of both, and thats the figures stated, so I'd be pretty happy with his results lol

He also mentioned that there is an even bigger difference in JDM 3.2 NSX! Would like to get a test in one myself to see! Only know of 2 JDM 3.2's in the UK so might have a run over to get a drive.

 

[Sudesh]

if i see you about in the NSX i may stop with you and have a look about it

Yeah sure! Anytime, if you see it parked at the office call in

 

[nobby]

Connor

will be happy to meet up sometime with you over the coming weeks, with my JDM car and let you drive it to see what you think . mine is pretty much standard compared to Sudesh's weight loss programme so you should be able to spot any differences if any in mine.

i am not partial on any opinion regarding the car/both variants as i have had very little time with the car as its been with Sudesh pretty much since i got her home (not his fault ... the joys of parts waiting ). I purchased the JDM variant on the back of Sudesh's advice, i have no issues with any variant as i think all NSX's are super SEXY

when mark (mcmullet) was gracious enuff to let me see his NSX 3.2 and take me out for a spin, between both cars i have not noticed too much in them. the jdm has a more sports type gearbox than the uk variant so that helps too

in my opinion i think there would not be much in it, a track would be the only way you would find out tbh

i was also wanting to go down the induction route too Connor, as i had it in my old ATR and the VTEC is fab with a kit. but after reading kaz's post re induction and power gains on a jdm car i decided against it. will change the paper filter to a k&n one in a couple of mths and hopefully get the exhaust (back box not FULL replacement ... i wish!) i recently purchased put on in the coming mths before i do any further mods to the car.

I have a shopping list of things to do to my car before looking at mods/performance gains i.e. engine hoses replacement etc. so further mods for me will be well over a year or so down the line

whatever you do just remember ENJOY THE CAR!

Love to see the power curves though as I've learned from my Evo days not to get too much of a hard on about peak figures!

 

[Sudesh]

Thats true! I'm thinking of going back to OEM myself and seeing if there is any difference. I know allot of guys in the states have done comparisons on this and most say to keep OEM, unless upgrading to full exhaust including high flow cats or turbo/super charger route.

Might even take my car to a dyno and see what the difference is in OEM box and the CAI.

i was also wanting to go down the induction route too Connor, as i had it in my old ATR and the VTEC is fab with a kit. but after reading kaz's post re induction and power gains on a jdm car i decided against it. will change the paper filter to a k&n one

 

[gcon45]

Connor

will be happy to meet up sometime with you over the coming weeks, with my JDM car and let you drive it to see what you think . mine is pretty much standard compared to Sudesh's weight loss programme so you should be able to spot any differences if any in mine.

i am not partial on any opinion regarding the car/both variants as i have had very little time with the car as its been with Sudesh pretty much since i got her home (not his fault ... the joys of parts waiting ). I purchased the JDM variant on the back of Sudesh's advice, i have no issues with any variant as i think all NSX's are super SEXY

when mark (mcmullet) was gracious enuff to let me see his NSX 3.2 and take me out for a spin, between both cars i have not noticed too much in them. the jdm has a more sports type gearbox than the uk variant so that helps too

in my opinion i think there would not be much in it, a track would be the only way you would find out tbh

i was also wanting to go down the induction route too Connor, as i had it in my old ATR and the VTEC is fab with a kit. but after reading kaz's post re induction and power gains on a jdm car i decided against it. will change the paper filter to a k&n one in a couple of mths and hopefully get the exhaust (back box not FULL replacement ... i wish!) i recently purchased put on in the coming mths before i do any further mods to the car.

I have a shopping list of things to do to my car before looking at mods/performance gains i.e. engine hoses replacement etc. so further mods for me will be well over a year or so down the line

whatever you do just remember ENJOY THE CAR!

Come on Andrew.
I was having fun there stoking Sudesh's 3.0 inferiority complex

No, obviously there isn't much difference in peak power and torque figures but I would be interested in overlapping the power graphs of 2 standard cars at a RR day to see the difference in the BHP and torque curves throughout the rev range (just for the craic).

I'd think twice about using a K&N replacement filter if I were you.

The oil K&N use on their filters can gunk up your air flow meter.
There are other 'dry' alternatives.

 

[nobby]

LOL!

i was just stating my opinion on the matter bud, not making any assumptions on both parties ... tut tut

but then how accrurate are rolling roads either?
there is so many variables there too and not every dyno is accurate. still think the best place to check out is on track

thats interesting on the k&n front mate, thanks for that. as you are into all the parts etc what aftermarket one would you consider then for the airbox?

hope to catch up in the near future bud

cheers

Come on Andrew.
I was having fun there stoking Sudesh's 3.0 inferiority complex

No, obviously there isn't much difference in peak power and torque figures but I would be interested in overlapping the power graphs of 2 standard cars at a RR day to see the difference in the BHP and torque curves throughout the rev range (just for the craic).

I'd think twice about using a K&N replacement filter if I were you.

The oil K&N use on their filters can gunk up your air flow meter.
There are other 'dry' alternatives.

 

[IL]

Yeah sure! Anytime, if you see it parked at the office call in

jude court?

 

[gcon45]

thats interesting on the k&n front mate, thanks for that. as you are into all the parts etc what aftermarket one would you consider then for the airbox?

hope to catch up in the near future bud

cheers

I'm not sure what other panel filters are available for the standard air box.

Maybe Pipercross or HKS do a foam filter.

You'll find that it will be a trade-off between power and filtration though.

The single layer foam HKS filters for example are the least restrictive but filtration is poor.

 

[nobby]

so would you say use the paper one?!

happy to try either tbh

I had a suction kit in the Evo by HKS and it had the mushroom foam filter, it was ok tbh, was pretty ok in terms of lifespan

does the pipercross not use oils then?

I'm not sure what other panel filters are available for the standard air box.

Maybe Pipercross or HKS do a foam filter.

You'll find that it will be a trade-off between power and filtration though.

The single layer foam HKS filters for example are the least restrictive but filtration is poor.

 

[scub]

Torque is also increased on JDM 3.0 NSX, its 294Nm(30.0 kgm)
3.2 is 298NM so not allot in it. Plus earlier cars are lighter that facelift!

now i'm not having a pop here as i think the nsx is a proper classic ,

but 294nm - is that not about 210lb/ft - ie. mondeo diesel type torque figures???

or is it totally different than turbo'd cars?

 

[nobby]

torque is pretty low in all VTEC's mate. think thats the norm for these engines

with regards to the printed facts and figures for the NSX, i can say after owning a modified evo which was braking close to 370bhp and had around 345 nms (as per ai m'sport dyno), the NSX engine is pretty torquey and pulls the car very well. It is also a V6 lump, and its certainly the most torqued VTEC I have ever driven.

You have to remember this car is entirely made from aluminium, chassis the works, so its light therefore power to weight ratio is high. Facts and figures (printed) do very little for this car, and figures look low on comparsion to more modern cars. You have to remember these were very capable figures back in the day, remember the 3.0 variant was released in late 80's/early 90's.

Trust me coming from an Evo background, this car feels very capable and tbh is more than powerful/speedy enuff for todays roads. I certainly have no issues with regards to pulling power etc, unlike other vtecs were you have to knock down the gears to get the power band. i found the NSX to be very capable in pulling in all gears including top

the figures are deceiving and you are NOT the first to make a comment about this, something just does not add up re the figures Honda officially quoted for this car. The car feels alot quicker than it is. So would not mistake you in thinking you were having a pop, when i first looked into the figures for this car i was SHOCKED to say the least. But once you experience the drive and feel of an NSX then figures go out the window. Trust me it is THAT GOOD. Hence why I fell in love with it and had to get one, now I am just waiting to get hold of it. As an ex Evo owner be happy to let you see it at some point if you are interested. Not sure of your location so PM sure if you wish. Happy to dispell any issues re this car. Remember this is Japan's first and only SUPERCAR and the likes of Gordon Murray (designer of McClaren F1) highly rate this car and used it as the benchmark for the F1.

gcon45 will be able to back me up on this too, as he was a previous Evo owner before he 'saw the light' too re this car

now i'm not having a pop here as i think the nsx is a proper classic ,

but 294nm - is that not about 210lb/ft - ie. mondeo diesel type torque figures???

or is it totally different than turbo'd cars?

 

[gcon45]

I'll second that.

I've had a 421BHP Evo IX GT and a standard Tommi Mak and although the NSX may be slightly behind the IX point to point, it makes both evos feel fairly primitive and under-developed in every other way.

 

[alan_c]

Only realsing who you are now Conor! The NSX is amazing! Must get a mosey around it sometime. Cheers for the nuts you got me on Saturday btw. Spark plug cover is now secure!

 

[gcon45]

Only realsing who you are now Conor! The NSX is amazing! Must get a mosey around it sometime. Cheers for the nuts you got me on Saturday btw. Spark plug cover is now secure!

Yes Alan. Glad to be of service.

The domed nuts look a bit more OEM than standard nuts at least!

Have you had much interest in the DC2 yet?

It's a great example and it's been well looked after

 

[alan_c]

Haven't had a chance to get it advertised yet, so no! Will get it done this weekend hopefully.

 

[mcmullet-vtec]

Lovin all this Nsx talk boys... They are 1 of the finest cars about IMO and I have sat in quite a few over the years lol don't think mine well ever be parted with!

 

[nobby]

now mark, you should be contributing as much as anyone as you have one for a long time now! ... sitting there on the sidelines ... tut tut. Good to hear you are gonna keep the car mate! Hope to catch up soon

 

[Bigman]

id love to have a go now lol

just seen on another thread someone supercharged their NSX..seems like a lot of work to be done!!

proper car porn lol