Thinking of buying an 01 Accord type R has anyone any views opinons or knowledge of them and what to watch out for ????
Welcome Andy, as said on fb, you know what to watch out for, there may be someone on here knows the actual car and could give some indepth knowledge of its history for you
im on my second one i like them that much. terry has one, nigel has had a couple. im sure we would all agree theyre very good cars and brilliant value for money. you get a lot for your money, especially when you compare old vti civics etc. dont be scared of the fifth gear thing, that does happen sometimes but its not as common as everyone makes out. also , parts are fairly cheap and theyre handy to work at which means keeping it on the road is a doddle. theyre very solid cars, dont rust really either. engine wise, timing belt, valve clearances, water pump, auto tensioner (not problem areas, just things you want to see done in the cars service history.) if you have any questions, fire away. you know youre paying the higher tax bracket too with the 01 model too? i prefer the pre face lift (both of mine have been pre) as i like the bumpers and grills more.
I love them, they're often overlooked but would still have one myself. Was looking at the sports a while back just cause they're a nice motor, but the type R's are beasts. Would consider getting one for the next car if I can't find a good teg. Great note out of them too! As said the 5th gear thing isn't all that bad, people like to exagerate how terrible the gear boxes are and make it out as they're car exploded, but really its just the 5th gear syncro that can sometimes be a pain, but cheap as hell to sort out. Wouldn't stop me buying one! Go for it
Welcome to RMS. ATRs are great cars, thirstier than an ITR and arguably not just as quick. Roomy, reliable, wonderful seats. Great value at the moment and getting rare now. Get one bought!
Test drove a couple of them but never actually bought. Great going cars and look very cool especially in pre facelift guise. The Recaro seats are also very comfortable and the seating position is perfect. The two I went to see both had previous accident damage and had been CAT D insurance right offs but weren't mentioned in the ads so check that out! Probably just coincidence however. I remember Damon Hill was in the adverts for them, the car was parked in a pit garage and he was getting out of it.
Rear brake caliper seizes 5th gear syncro Other than that solid machine and the slow-tec h22 is a fantastic engine. A lot of development went into that engine back when they made the first type-s preludes.
thanks guys had it out on a test drive and thought it was great vtec came on around 5600 -5800 rpm and as you say exhaust note was lovely, and the seats. Yea Pete i realise there slightly higher tax just need to get service history checked out and the dealer had checked out the history and no record of any crashes. Theres just one we dent I saw on the boot lid on it .
that rear caliper issue is one ive next to never heard about on them in my experience. certainly a rare problem that would be no more common than any other car. an s2000 on the other hand, a rear caliper issue is definitely a common problem. the engine is also better than the prelude versions. hand finished and a different cam profile for extended opening, hence higher power from standard. if you find one thats got a solid service history then thats your priority. panels and replacing bits are easy to come by and cheap to change over yourself. theres not much i wouldnt be able to fix or service on mine. the odd dent is fine, theyre a 11 odd years old now! best bet, as with buying any performance car nowadays, get yourself on the relevant owners club forum and read up! atr.org
Pete you really know your atr's were would you value an 01 with 77000 on the clock if the history and usual things had or where changed replaced ie timing belt tensioner water pump etc ??
Ive just bought one, and loving it so far. Really is a lot of car for the money. From what ive read very few of the facelift models have ever had the syncro problem.
Horses for courses... some folks wont like em, some will love em. Personaly, i love mine. had it for about 5 years now, bought it with 79,000 on it now has 104,000 i think. As with all cars, theres things need changing, wear and tear. Face lifts (2001 and 2002) had a slightly different box and so they SAY dont have such a problem with boxes on them (which TBH, as said above, isnt een as big a problem as everyone likes to make out). Mines 2002 and still has original box parts in it, no crunching , but admitadly, you can feel a small step into 5th gear.. but what car with 100,000 doesnt!? lol Calipers are hit and miss, but a fairly cheap fix to refurb, i went ahead and done mine when i bought it, new seals, pistons etc, time consuming/fidly but easy enough. a few really common upgrades like the typhoon and decat do alot IMO.... and to say theyre not as quick as a teg?.. in a straight line, mine with decat and intake, was quicker than a teg with a decat (and teg owners would say standard intakes their best.. so fairly level playing field id say?).... On track mind you, a teg is deffo more nimble. not to say the ATR is a slug tho lol. like pete said, timing gear being done is important, genuine auto tensioner, and a decent brand watepump. The rear ARB drop links tend to wear out every 2 years or so. but honestly, IMO, a good servce schedule and regular fluid changes, including gearbox with GOOD fluids and these things are really sewing machines. Jst watch out for the occasional lemon... Ive heard about some cars seeming real nice, but for some reason not having much go to them... so get a drive in a healthy car and have a clear idea what 'healthy' feels like. EVERY CAR has its problems, plus remember these things are getting old, so its to expected theyll need maintained... but if the previous owners looked after it, and you continute doing so, problems should be minimal... more than can be said for some other 10 year old cars to be fair..... Hope that helps.
If they did a hatchback model I'd certainly have thought about getting one. Solid cars, although personally I'd consider a facelift version.
Great car love mine, proper vtec. Love the seats, handling, diff in gearbox, good brakes. Make sure it doesn't crunch going into fifth at high revs and you'll be fine
hard to say exactly since some people out there are dreamers and some are just looking a quick sell. if its a good one with all documented history then somewhere around the £2800 mark would be more than reasonable if you can get it for about that, or less. things like colour play a part though, usually the silver are cheapest of the three (red and black). terry covered all the main points above too. fully synthetic engine oil AND GEAR BOX OIL are so important. i change my gear box oil every six months regardless of mileage, same with the engine oil. its an 90 minute job to do both so no reason why not.
Had a facelift model they are good value for money, as said spacious, nice seats, handle and go reasonably well, and still look ok but found mine v thirsty.
well she has had the belt tensioner and water pump done plus dealer has given a full service brakes etc so come wednesday evening I'll have my first Type R !!!!!!! By the way thanks to everyones advise very helpfull !!!!!!! When would you's recommend next timing belt at ? And an oil change isn't a big thing have access to a lift so even easier Now what mod's do you's guys recommend ? Plus what tyres ???
don't do mods yet, just enjoy for now. They're awesome standard even. You gotta put a thread up when you get it, gotta see what this beast is like!
is she standard? Standard mods are the usual Decat and intake (couple hundred quid?)... down a bit of MPG, but help noise! lol also if its prefacelift she would like a set of nice exhasut tips out the back, so mayb rear boxes? Next after than IMO, Coilovers and lightened flywheel (id also recomend rear upper adjustable arms, sort the rediculous looking camber out after lowering) After that manifold, short shifter and front polymount Then maybe a hacker ECU? Thats ONLY MY OPINION tho lol... and the above list even when done over years, hurts the wallet.lol for now, aim for the basics in the coming months, intake and decat. Tyre choice is always a personal preference and can come down to budget.... as an all rounder, to keep it simple, id say goodyearEagle F1's... ran them for YEARS on mine and were a brilliant tyre, even used em on the nurburgring a few years. Grip well in dry, wet, and wear well.
She is standard but as you say enjoy it and do it slowly there's a wee dent on the boot lid i'd like to get sorted first and then a couple of stone chips but again she is 11 here's a picture of her
again, as terry said, decat and intake are the first mods you would want to do to it. a decat can be had for about 50 quid and makes a good difference, and you have two choices with the intake, you can go for a typhoon (about 150-200 quid depending if new or second hand) which will increase top end power, or you can do an airbox mod for free which will see better mid range power gains but then again, as terry knows i had the airbox done on mine and had 1hp more than his with the typhoon that was my last one, with just a decat and airbox mod and it made 229 bhp. Johnny did three runs with it since he was that surprised how healthy it was! i did have a typhoon on my current atr but sold it and did the airbox mod. sounds slightly different but gives better low end grunt, were id rather have it, and it was free to do! (it is PROVEN on a rolling road too, the guys on the atr forum are exhaustive when it comes to testing mods and this one is proven to actually work) i keep looking at coilovers and raging i missed terrys old set, or springs. then again, extra bracing is an excellent upgrade too, front and rear upper braces (do the front first). front polymount is a great upgrade too and nice and cheap (around 80 quid) and makes a good difference. ive still try try one with the lightened flywheel (wink wink terry ) but everyone says its a great mod to help acceleration. you'll never get much more power out of them but you can certainly improve a few things. tyre choice, eagle F1 are great but im loyal to pirelli p zero nero's. had them on both of my accords and i couldnt fault them at all. worth every penny.