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Originally Posted by Paul RS

My point is, take away the vtak from honda and whats left? Not alot.

My point about the vtec and its revs compared to its output isn't self pwnage at all. For what they rev to they have crap power. Maybe thats why nobody else has bothered to use the system - after all, whats the point?

Hardly self pwnage on my part as i didn't start comparing specific none honda cars to hondas did i? I was merely pointing out how overrated the vtec engine is.

Also honda could have made them more hardcore? Obviously not - Look at that stupidly priced civic thats coming out, the bhp gains are hardly worth mentioning, even though they have a 'hand built by mugan or whomever' engine all you honda halfwits rave about.

as i said, keep it relevant - perhaps not to the thread, but to whatever it is you are responding to.

You say take away vtec and honda are left with not a lot - well take away turbos and ford are left with even slower, heavy and ****ing ugly cars mainly used to shuffle people round cities with an orange sign on the roof.

You obviously feel you have a valid point when you try to put a point across that Honda are ****. What you are actually doing is ensuring all those non-ford lovers actually hate ford even more. Reason being - cos over opinionated, under educated mouths like yours come with that scene.

However, they also come in every other scene, at least if i am putting a point across i will show respect towards what any other company has managed to do. Such as the RS Turbo, ****ing great car, handles like **** all, goes like stink when played with, but still the only enjoyment from driving them is the complete lack of sense of control.

So back into your box sir, Ford are just one more manufacturer out there spooling out poorly built cars and trying to make money from it. Henry is not God, nor is he any relation to God. Your opinion is not Gospel and as such you should not try to push it on the world when the world seems to know better already.

Stick to what you love, just dont be another friggin fanboy. Just cos there is no blue oval on the front end does not mean you have a valid reason to call it **** or whatever else you determine it to be. Yes have your opinion, but remember thats all it is!!!!